I guess I should have been additional specific, but I feel my OP however indicates it. I'm not trying to get a 'substitute' for W231, but a 'substitute'. For a few years, I've used W231 for 'exercise' loads in my find handguns employed for house/self protection, but I am now https://cfe-pistol-load-data-for00093.blog4youth.com/26622701/cfe-pistol-9mm-load-data-for-dummies